Produse pt incetinirea cresterii parului

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    • 1709 mesaje
    27 Iul 2004, 20:57
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    Ma refer la parul nedorit, of course !

    Exista astfel de produse pe piata, eu pana acum am vazut niste servetele care se folosesc dupa epilat si se presupune ca incetinesc si cresterea firelor de par (la Sensiblu le-am vazut), si stiu ca a aparut un produs de genul asta si la Avon.

    A incercat cineva un astfel de produs? Daca da, cu ce rezultate???

    Va pup, si sper sa ne "reauzim" cat de curand !!!
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    • 1026 mesaje
    27 Iul 2004, 21:43
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    Angelito, in State e o mare revolutie cu acest fel de produse, de care mai mult reclama este decat efectul. Dar nu poti spune ca sunt ineficiente 100% pentru ca, dupa cate imi amintesc, au in compozitia lor soia (sper sa nu gresesc) care contribuie la incetinirea cresterii firului de par. Cel putin asa spun dermatologii.
    Nu am folosit inca. Mai astept sa iasa la iveala informatii pentru ca sunt cam Toma necredinciosu'. Usor ar fi sa incepem sa ne dam cu niste creme si parul sa apara din ce in ce mai rar.
    Am fi toate niste fericite, iar cosmeticienele ar da faliement
    In opinia mea epilatul indelungat rareste firele de par. Chiar daca aceste creme ar avea efect, tot dupa mult timp s-ar vedea ceva. Pana atunci fac 80 de ani
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    • 93 mesaje
    28 Iul 2004, 01:38
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    Eu am folosit astfel de creme si nici vorba sa incetineasca cresterea firelor de par. E ca si cum te-ai da cu o crema obisnuita. Dezamagitor.
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    • 194 mesaje
    28 Iul 2004, 11:17
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    Nici eu nu prea cred in produsele astea,am vazut ca a aparut si la Redis o lotiune pt incetinirea cresterii parului.Iar daca soia chiar contribuie la asta,n-ar fi mai bine sa incercam un produs naturist pe baza de soia?Ma gandesc ca ar avea concentratia mult mai mare decat in lotiunile astea..
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    • 155 mesaje
    28 Iul 2004, 11:35
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    Eu folosesc de la Redis ,75 ml-95.000 lei , suna bine ,dar rezultate ? cred ca e la fel !Poti incerca poate tu iti poti da seama !
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    • 831 mesaje
    28 Iul 2004, 11:55
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    O amica de-a mea e reprezentant Avon si am intrebat-o cam ce parere are despre crema care incetineste cresterea firului de par......Ce credeti? Mi-a spus ca e o porcarie si sa nu arunc banii pe asha ceva
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    • 1709 mesaje
    28 Iul 2004, 12:26
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    Merci de raspunsuri, fetelor!

    Nici eu nu am mare incredere in astfel de produse, dar am auzit persoane la care chiar au dat rezultate (de ex., la Bourjois exista un deodorant care promite ca incetineste cresterea firelor de par, si se pare ca e eficient). Pe de alta parte, in general produsele de genul asta au un efect pozitiv, chiar daca nu incetinesc cresterea parului nedorit, impiedica cresterea lui pe sub piele, ceea ce oricum e foarte bine! Poate produsele profesionale, care se vand in saloane, sunt mai eficiente...

    Un remediu intr-adevar eficient impotriva cresterii parului nedorit este extractul de Saw Palmetto (palmier pitic, Serenoa repens sau Sabal serrulata), care se gaseste sub forma de tinctura sau in medicamentele pt prostata, pt barbati. Este un produs 100% natural si fara efecte secundare care inhiba sinteza dehidrotestosteronului, forma activa a testosteronului, care e responsabil, intre altele, si de cresterea parului nedorit, precum si de caderea parului de pe cap (alopecia androgenica).

    Eu cred c-o sa merg cat de curand la farmacie sa caut un astfel de produs, si-o sa va tin la curent cu rezultatele !

    Va pup, pe curand!!!
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    • 1709 mesaje
    28 Iul 2004, 12:28
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    Pentru cele interesate, postez aici un articol despre efectele anti-androgenice ale extractului de palmier pitic (in engleza):

    Topical saw palmetto has also been used successfully in women for hair loss (androgenic alopecia) due to high levels of male hormone testosterone (4).

    Actually the active agent in causing adrogenic hair loss (balding of the head), acne and even excess body hair is a chemical called dihydrotestosterone (DHT). It is formed in the skin by the conversion of testosterone to DHT by an enzyme called 5-alpha reductase. Saw palmetto is known to block 5-alpha reductase as its mechanism to reduce prostatic hypertrophy and androgenic alopecia. To our knowledge it has not been tested as an active agent against acne or excess hair growth (hirsutism) in women either by applying the oil topically (breaking open the capsules) or taking the capsules by mouth. However in theory, by being an effective 5-alpha reductase blocker, it should have a positive effect on both acne and excess hair growth.

    Saw Palmetto

    Saw palmetto (also know as sabal palmett is a reddish brown-to-black berry growing on a 6'-8" palm tree (Serenoa repens). The fruit of this palm have been part of the diet of natives of the southeastern U.S. for hundreds of years.

    It is widely used for the treatment of enlarged prostate glands in men. It is thought that prostate glands become enlarged primarily because of a metabolite of testosterone, called dihydrotestosterone, or DHT. Women with PCOS (polycystic ovarian syndrome) also tend to have higher levels of testosterone and DHT than other women. Therefore, what works for men may work for women.

    Saw Palmetto Extract for Hirsutism
    Is It Similar to Anti-Androgenic Drugs?
    Side Effects
    Drug Interactions
    How Much Should You Take?
    Vitex and Saw Palmetto Dose

    Saw Palmetto Extract for Hirsutism

    How does it work in women?

    One of the most troubling symptoms of women with PCOS is hirsutism (too much hair, in the wrong places). Hirsutism is thought to be mostly due to excessive levels of androgenic hormones. Examples of androgens are testosterone, androstenedione, and DHEA.

    Testosterone is the main androgen we’re concerned about. It’s normal for men to have a lot of testosterone and for women to have some. In both men and women, testosterone is converted into a more potent hormone called DHT (dihydrotestosterone). DHT is the hormone in your skin that stimulates hirsutism, which is male pattern hair growth. If you can reduce DHT, you may be able to reduce hirsutism (hair growing where you don't want it) or male pattern hair loss (restoring hair where you do want it).

    Saw palmetto appears to reduce DHT in three different ways:
    Inhibits DHT production;
    Inhibits the binding of DHT to its cell receptors;
    Promotes the breakdown of DHT.

    Testosterone is converted into DHT by an enzyme called 5-alpha-reductase. 5-alpha-reductase is inhibited by saw palmetto, and thus less DHT is produced and hirsutism may be reduced.

    Saw palmetto may be helpful in another way. A high level of estrogen may inhibit the elimination of DHT. Some women with PCOS have estrogen levels that are too high. It is reported to have an anti-estrogenic effect, thus helping with the removal of DHT.

    There have been many studies of men with testosterone disorders that demonstrate the effectiveness and safety of saw palmetto. There aren’t yet any studies of hirsute PCOS women. However, naturopathic physicians using these herbs for PCOS are seeing consistently favorable results.

    Saw palmetto may help with the following PCOS symptoms:
    Hirsutism (too much hair in the wrong places)
    Male pattern baldness or hair loss.

    Is It Similar to Anti-Androgenic Drugs?

    Two drugs commonly prescribed for PCOS women are spironolactone (Aldactone), and finasteride (Propecia, Proscar).

    Spironolactone is a diuretic that blocks two pathways to the production of androgens, or male hormones. One of those pathways is inhibition of 5-alpha-reductase. Spironolactone may cause irregular bleeding in some women, a
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    • 1709 mesaje
    28 Iul 2004, 12:36
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    as well as nausea, indigestion or fatigue.

    Propecia and Proscar inhibit 5-alpha-reductase and are used mostly for male pattern baldness and men with enlarged prostate glands.

    The Journal of the American Medical Association published a review of studies that concluded saw palmetto was as effective as finasteride in the treatment of enlarged prostates.

    Two advantages of saw palmetto are:
    (1) it is free of side effects, and
    (2) it is less expensive than the drugs mentioned above.

    Saw Palmetto Side Effects and Precautions

    No significant side effects have been noted in clinical trials with this herbal extract, except for rare headache or stomach upset if taken on an empty stomach.

    Because of possible hormonal activity, it is not recommended for women who are pregnant or breast-feeding.

    Drug Interactions

    Palmetto berry constituents have alpha-adrenergic blocking activity that may alter the effects of these medications: prazosin, terazosin, doxazosin mesylate, tamsulosin

    It may have an additive effect if taken with anti-androgen drugs that reduce the levels of male sex hormones, such as finasteride (Prosca, Propecia) or flutamide (Eulexin).

    In theory, it could interfere with birth control pills or hormone replacement therapy in women.

    If you're taking any of these drugs, check with your doctor or naturopathic physician before taking saw palmetto.

    Because it may have activity on the body's response to estrogen, the effects of other agents believed to have estrogen-like properties may be altered. Possible examples include alfalfa, black cohosh, bloodroot, burdock, hops, kudzu, licorice, pomegranate, red clover, soy, thyme, white horehound, and yucca.

    How Much Should You Take?

    Every women is unique, so the amount and form of saw palmetto you need won't be the same as for someone else.

    As a general guideline, a common dose for men is 320 mg. of extract per day, standardized to at least 85-95% fatty acids with a guaranteed minimum of 0.2-0.4% sterols. ("Standardized" means you get the same amount of active ingredients every time). You may decide to start with a somewhat lower dose.

    In men, it can be taken for six weeks before any effect is noticed. If improvement is noted, it is recommended that men take it continuously. Since you're trying to reduce DHT like the men are, you could do the same.
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    • 247 mesaje
    28 Iul 2004, 14:31
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    Angelito, sa ne spui ce-ai gasit la plafar, pt asa ceva......Suntem foarte multe fete cu probleme, chiar imi spunea cineva care a fost la Parhon ca i s-a recomandat Spirolactona, pt dereglarile hormonale care genereaza pilozitatea excesiva. Multumim si te pupam
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    • 1709 mesaje
    29 Iul 2004, 20:20
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    Vili, sa stii ca acest extract are efecte similare spironolactonei, de fapt este chiar mai eficient (pt ca inhiba transformarea testosteronului liber in dehidrotestosteron - DHT, cum am mai spus), si fara efecte secundare. Alte produse care inhiba sinteza DHT sunt vitamina B6, sulfatul de zinc si acidul azelaic (care se gaseste in creme de tipul Skinoren).

    Oricum, exista multe produse care contin extract de palmier pitic la noi pe piata, de la tinctura (care e cea mai ieftina), pana la medicamentele mai complexe pt prostata (care sunt destul de scumpe), de genul Prostenalului, de la Walmark (pe care cred c-o sa-l si incerc).
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    • 247 mesaje
    30 Iul 2004, 12:47
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    Angelito, pai tu ce zici- sa ma duc sa cer de la plafar tinctura de palmier pitic sau sa iau Prostenal.
    Dar cat timp oare trebuie sa luam?

    Tu vad ca inclini mai mult pt Prost,de ce? e mai comod sa iei capsula sau conc. e mai mare?Eu o sa incep sa fac si o cura de B6(2/zi dimineata si la pranz ca seara-mi creeaza insomnii)
    Te pup.
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    • 1709 mesaje
    31 Iul 2004, 14:41
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    Vili, poti sa alegi ce varianta vrei, tinctura e mult mai ieftina si in mod normal ar trebui sa fie eficienta. Eu as prefera Prostenalul pt ca are si alte extracte, antioxidanti, si in plus tincturile contin mult alcool iar mie mi se cam face rau de la gustul ala alcoolizat. Vezi ca am vazut o astfel de tinctura (de la PlantExtrakt, cred) la farmacie, se numea Sabalit, parca. Si mai sunt niste capsule cu extract de palmier de la lab. Medica, cred ca se numesc chiar Serenoa Repens. Daca vrei sa iei Prostenal, ai grija ca e destul de scump, in jur de 5-600.000 (la Sensiblu).

    Concentratia de extract, adica doza zilnica, trebuie sa fie in jur de 300 mg.

    Tratamentele de genul asta trebuie facute pe perioade indelungate, sau foarte indelungate, luni si ani de zile, ca sa obtii rezultate optime. In mod normal ar trebui sa vezi ceva efecte pozitive dupa 2-3 luni de folosire.

    Cat despre vitamina B6, poti sa iei una pe zi, exista niste comprimate (romanesti, de la Sicomed parca) de 250 mg, e suficient sa iei o astfel de doza intr-o zi.
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    • 247 mesaje
    2 Aug 2004, 09:34
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    Angelito, multumesc pt sfaturi , mai tinem legatura. Pupici
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    • 1401 mesaje
    9 Aug 2005, 14:38
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    Eu pana acum am avut acest rezultat (incetinirea cresterii parului nedorit) intr-un singur fel -- epilatorul. Cu epilatorul imi creste parul mult mai rar fata de alte metode de epilare pe care le foloseam altadata. Dupa 2 luni de cand mi-am luat epilatorul si doar dupa cateva folosiri ale acestuia, deja se vede diferenta dintre cat de rar imi creste acum parul, fata de cat de des imi crestea altadata, cand foloseam crema de epilat sau lama de ras. Va pup!